Wil Shipley of Delicious Monster joins me for the long-awaited interview discussing his history as a NeXT developer, co-founder of Omni Group, and Delicious Monster. He shares his colorful opinions on software development, and handling the fame lavished upon him as a popular Mac developer. The paparazzi swarming Zoka café are just a minor nuisance.
As Delicious Library has sold "tens of thousands" of copies, Wil's advice will be welcomed by many a developer on any platform. Delicious Monster's first published app is truly a breakout success that has pushed many of us to consider what can be built using Apple's Cocoa frameworks.
The Delicious success has inspired developer stargazing along the lines of: "I'm going to build this really cool Delicious-like app for XYZ market... and it's going to be HUGE!!"
Time: 1:10 Size: 37.9MB
via iTunes channel or AAC Enhanced (m4b)
Props to Marc Nothrop and Justin Williams for their help with this audio.
[ updated for various spelling infractions ]
Technorati Tags: apple, cocoa, deliciousmonster, developer, macprogramming, obj-c, osx


Thanks Blake! On a roll lately, eh? :)
Posted by: Casey | 07 January 2006 at 10:59 AM
Can I put this one a CD? How?
I want to listen to it while I drive.
Posted by: Greg | 07 January 2006 at 08:47 PM
The link to the aac file is 404.
Posted by: Hugh Roper | 07 January 2006 at 11:50 PM
Try the link again. It's hosted on archive.org. I tested it just now and am getting a download.
Posted by: Blake Burris | 08 January 2006 at 07:52 AM
Greg, To make a CD (assuming your using iTunes), insert a blank CD and then drag the track(s) you'd like to burn to the icon in the left sidebar of iTunes. Once you are satisfied with the items listed in that "playlist", click BURN in the upper right-hand of iTunes.
This file is a m4b protected format but I'm thinking it'll still burn. Call me cheap or lazy for not trying it out here on a 10¢ CD. Reply if you have problems. You may have to convert the track to MP3 format.
Posted by: Blake Burris | 08 January 2006 at 08:08 AM
Casey - Thanks! I was hoping someone would notice that the metamucil is working. A regular schedule of shows is what I want for CocoaRadio too. Having more control over recording and post-production has helped immensely. Hopefully with an Intel announement at MW, I can rev the portable recording setup someday soon.
Posted by: Blake Burris | 08 January 2006 at 08:16 AM
Nice work, Blake!
The interview is really nice, and Wil Shipley has indeed interesting things to say. I loved the part on GC and autorelease, with which I agree so much. Wil Shipley is better on one-to-one conversation like this (or like in the DrunkenBlog interview), whereas he tends to overdo it in other setups with a large audience, like his blog or his talks (though I actually like this style too, it is in fact more on the funny side, just less "authentic").
Posted by: Charles Parnot | 10 January 2006 at 12:21 AM
Thanks, that worked!
Greg, To make a CD (assuming your using iTunes), insert a blank CD and then drag the track(s) you'd like to burn to the icon in the left sidebar of iTunes. Once you are satisfied with the items listed in that "playlist", click BURN in the upper right-hand of iTunes.
This file is a m4b protected format but I'm thinking it'll still burn. Call me cheap or lazy for not trying it out here on a 10¢ CD. Reply if you have problems. You may have to convert the track to MP3 format.
Posted by: Greg | 10 January 2006 at 10:15 AM
Wow that was a great interview with Wil Shipley. Talk about motivation. Nice Job. Props to you.
Posted by: Thom | 10 January 2006 at 02:37 PM
Didn't the Booxter app have iSight barcode reading for books well before Delicious Library? Why did Wil seem to want to make so much out of the the fact that he did this first and that he invented it? Does anyone know who really was first here?
Posted by: anoncoward | 14 January 2006 at 07:01 AM
On "Yellow Box"... I think it would be crazy/cool if I could create an app in Xcode then have it run in Windows and Mac OS. I could then create apps at from a Mac and not have to suffer with using a Windows box.
I know this is a pipe-dream, but dreams are good ya know!
Posted by: Lee | 14 January 2006 at 07:14 PM
@anoncoward:
There have been many camera-based barcode readers before. The Delicious Library version is vastly superior since it's fast and easier to use.
With all other bar code readers for cameras you have to take a picture and then wait for some bar code scanning algorithm. If the algorithm doesn't work, then you have to start over. The benefit of Delicious Library is that it scans thousands of times per minute very fast so all you'd have to do is tilt or move it a few millimeters and it can work.
Posted by: Derek | 14 January 2006 at 08:34 PM